Looking for relationship advice? Skip the self-help books and turn to Sabrina Carpenter's latest single "Manchild" instead. This deep dive into the art of musical insults reveals how pop's newest sensation joins a legendary lineage of women artists who've perfected the craft of calling out incompetent men through song. From Dolly Parton's subversive "Dumb Blonde" to TLC's iconic "No Scrubs," there's an entire musical tradition of witty takedowns that reclaim power through clever wordplay, genre-hopping arrangements, and lyrical traps that expose male vanity.

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Songs discussed

• Sabrina Carpenter "Manchild"
• Sabrina Carpenter "Espresso"
• Olivia Rodrigo "Driver's License"
• The Beatles "Get Back"
• Heart "Barracuda"
• Dolly Parton "Dumb Blonde"
• Sabrina Carpenter "Please Please Please"
• TLC "No Scrubs"
• Destiny's Child "Bills, Bills, Bills"
• Destiny's Child "Independent Women Part 1"
• Shania Twain "That Don't Impress Me Much"
• Carly Simon "You're So Vain"

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What if the Chairman of the Board's biggest contribution to music wasn't his voice, but the blueprint he created for modern pop stardom? Frank Sinatra didn't just sing songs: he invented the concept album, injected his full personality into every performance, and created a template for artistic control that today's biggest stars still follow. His influence runs deeper than you think: Amy Winehouse titled her debut Frank as tribute, Jay-Z calls himself "the new Sinatra," and Frank Ocean borrowed his name from both Sinatra and Ocean's Eleven. That influence extends to unexpected places too: Seth MacFarlane, the creator of Family Guy, has been championing Sinatra's orchestral style for years, and through his friendship with the Sinatra family gained access to over 1,200 boxes of never-recorded arrangements. His new album Lush Life: The Lost Sinatra Arrangements features songs that arranged for Sinatra but never performed, uncovering musical treasures that reveal new insights into how the Chairman of the Board's innovations still shape the sound of pop music today.

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Songs Discussed

• Frank Sinatra "Fly Me to the Moon"
• Frank Sinatra "All the Way"
• Frank Sinatra "In the Wee Small Hours of the Morning"
• Frank Sinatra "Something" (Beatles cover)
• Amy Winehouse "Halftime"
• Jay-Z "Empire State Mind"
• Frank Sinatra "Strangers in the Night"
• Frank Sinatra & Nancy Sinatra "Something Stupid"
• Frank Sinatra "New York, New York"
• Frank Sinatra "My Way"
• Sonny and Cher "I Got You Babe"
• Frank Sinatra "Laura"
• Seth MacFarlane "How Did She Look"
• Seth MacFarlane "Lush Life"
• Seth MacFarlane "Give Me the Simple Life"
• Seth MacFarlane "Shadows"
• Seth MacFarlane "Who's in Your Arms Tonight"

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The UK outfit Sleep Token has done what we once thought impossible: Found commercial success playing heavy metal music in 2025 AD.

Their fourth studio album, Even in Arcadia, went to number one on the Billboard 200 upon its release, with all ten of its tracks charting on the Hot 100—this despite the fact that the band has been entirely masked and anonymous through their nine year existence.

Sleep Token's willingness to inject their brand of heavy metal with autotuned pop vocals, reggaeton beats, and hop hop inflected rhythms has widened their audience, but in the process had galvanized scathing criticism. Pitchfork gave the album a withering review calling Even in Arcadia "schmaltzy and dull," while Anthony Fantano dubbed the band "metal music for Disney adults."

We get to know Sleep Token—the music and the controversy—by listening deeply to the ways they toy with the genre conventions of metal, and ask whether they are changing the sound of pop in the process.

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Songs Discussed

• Sleep Token - Thread the Needle, Emergence, Caramel, Damocles
• Ghost - Satanized
• Metallica - Hero of the Day
• Nickelback - How You Remind Me

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Five years ago, Charli XCX released the track "party 4 u," a melancholic ode to throwing a function for that one specific person. Now, in 2025, the song has gotten a renewed life – motivated by a foolproof cocktail of TikTok trends, the Billboard Hot 100, and a post-Brat Summer clamor for Charli.

It's rare for pop songs like this to get a second wind. So, on this episode of Switched On Pop, Reanna, Nate, and Charlie put on our detective hats on to dissect the five-minute song's vocals, textures, and structures to understand just why people are reconnecting with it, half a decade later.

Songs discussed:

• Charli XCX – party 4 u
• Charli XCX – claws
• Charli XCX – 4 in the Morning
• Charli XCX – anthems
• Lesley Gore – It's My Party

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The 808 is arguably the most iconic drum machine ever made. Even if you’ve never heard of it, you’ve definitely heard it. It’s in dozens of hit songs -- from Usher to Marvin Gaye, Talking Heads to The Beastie Boys -- and its sounds have quietly cemented themselves in the cultural lexicon. In this episode, we try to understand how that happened and follow the unlikely path of the 808. Featuring DJ Jazzy Jeff and Paul McCabe from Roland.

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What happens when worship anthems climb the charts alongside soul revivals and nostalgia-driven comebacks? The May 2025 Billboard charts reveal a fascinating musical landscape where Drake performs a strategic reset after his epic battle with Kendrick, worship-adjacent pop dominates the mainstream, and The Marias reject conventional song structures with dreamy success. From the bizarre 34-second Minecraft soundtrack hit to the rise of "voice audition pop," we're exploring how these competing visions of pop music reflect our collective anxieties and cultural shifts. Is this beautiful chaos the new normal?

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We rarely cover movies here at Switched On Pop. But after seeing Ryan Coogler's new vampire musical Sinners, we knew we had to make an exception.

The movie is an ode to Black music. Throughout its over two hour runtime, the film pays tribute to the blues: nodding to the musicians, instruments, and melodies that make it a foundational genre in the American musical canon. There's also Irish folk vampires, original music from Ludwig Göransson, and a whole lot of history – perfect for Charlie and Nate to sink their teeth into.

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It's that time of year again: Eurovision Song Contest is upon us. And with the competition comes a tradition at Switched On Pop, where Charlie and Nate look at the songs (and countries) that have the best odds to take home the title. This year, we have an ode to the sauna, soaring operatics, and a feast of food-themed tunes – including the Estonian entrant Tommy Cash's ode to the "Espresso Macchiato."

This episode of Switched On Pop, we take a sonic trip to Basel, Switzerland – and in the back half of the episode, talk to Tommy Cash himself about his entry and more.

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Despite TikTok defining this decade's music landscape, the app hasn't spawned a bonafide pop superstar – yet. 24-year-old Addison Rae is trying to be the first.

She's already had cosigns from Arca, Charli XCX, and Benny Blanco; critical acclaim from outlets like Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, and Elle; and is cultivating a fervent fanbase with a slew of breathy, ethereal, and inspiration-laden singles. But how does one translate TikTok celebrity into pop success?

On this episode of Switched On Pop, Reanna, Nate, and Charlie put their "Headphones On" to understand how one of the biggest Gen-Z celebrities is trying to parlay her allure into pop princess-dom.

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SONGS DISCUSSED

• Addison Rae – Diet Pepsi
• Addison Rae – Aquamarine
• Addison Rae – High Fashion
• Addison Rae – Headphones On
• Addison Rae – Obsessed
• Charlie Puth – The Way I Am
• Michael Jackson – Smooth Criminal
• Addison Rae – I got it bad
• Addison Rae – Nothing On (But The Radio)
• Addison Rae – it could've been u
• Addison Rae – 2 die 4 (feat. Charli XCX)
• Charli XCX, Addison Rae, A. G. Cook – Von dutch a. g. remix
• Lana Del Rey – Blue Jeans
• Lana Del Rey – Cherry
• Lana Del Rey – Diet Mountain Dew
• Lana Del Rey – Bartender
• Lana Del Rey – Cola
• Madonna – Nothing Really Matters
• Selena Gomez, A$AP Rocky – Good For You
• Edie Brickell & New Bohemians – What I Am

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Taylor Swift isn't just a world-conquering pop star at the top of her game, her approach to songwriting has also proven massively influential for an up-and-coming generation of singer-songwriters. Gracie Abrams, Maisie Peters, and Phoebe Bridgers—all of whom opened for Swift during her Eras Tour—each owe a debt to Swift's hyperspecific lyrics, minimal melodies, and bombastic bridges. We break down the key aspects of Swift's songcraft and how we can hear them manifest in the work of her young acolytes, and we speak to another burgeoning artist, the brilliant Jensen McRae, to learn firsthand why Swift's style has been so resonant.

Songs Discussed

Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (Taylor's Version) (From The Vault)

Gracie Abrams - That’s So True

Maisie Peters - There It Goes

Taylor Swift - Style (Taylor's Version)

Taylor Swift - You're On Your Own, Kid

Phoebe Bridgers - Motion Sickness

Taylor Swift - Our Song

Beyoncé - Sandcastles

Katy Perry - Unconditionally

Taylor Swift - cardigan

Dua Lipa - Levitating

Taylor Swift - You Belong With Me (Taylor’s Version)

Taylor Swift - Dear John (Taylor's Version)

Jensen McRae - Praying For Your Downfall

Jensen McRae - Savannah

Jensen McRae - Immune

Taylor Swift - Would've, Could've, Should've

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Specialized platforms and social media have empowered musicians to tap into niche audiences, igniting a quiet revolution in the music industry. Despite the dominance of viral hits, a new wave of artists, labels and businesses are redefining success by building dedicated fanbases with focused, niche strategies. This conversation, live from SXSW, features Charlie leading a conversation with:

• LP Giobbi, a producer, jazz-trained pianist, and activist who spends 300 days a year touring between festival stages, club floors, and studios.
• Nabil Ayers, president of Beggar's Group, home to multiple indie labels including 4AD, Matador Records, Rough Trade, and XL Recordings.
• Dani Deahl, a DJ, producer, and head of communications and creator insights at BandLab, the most popular digital audio workstation worldwide.

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