The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox

A philosophical take on culture, politics, and everything in between.

  • 44 minutes 39 seconds
    Swear like a philosopher

    You can’t drop an f-bomb on the radio, but fortunately for our guest, you can say anything you want in a podcast. This week, host Sean Illing talks to philosopher Rebecca Roache, author of For F*ck’s Sake: Why Swearing Is Shocking, Rude, and Fun about the philosophy and linguistics of swearing, and why certain four-letter words hold the magical power to both offend and delight.

    Warning: In case it’s not obvious, this episode contains swearing.

    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Rebecca Roache (@rebecca_roache)

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    22 July 2024, 9:30 am
  • 1 hour 2 minutes
    Taking Nietzsche seriously

    Sean Illing talks with political science professor Matt McManus about the political thought of Friedrich Nietzsche, the 19th-century German philosopher with a complicated legacy, despite his crossover into popular culture. They discuss how Nietzsche's work has been interpreted — and misinterpreted — since his death in 1900, how his radical political views emerge from his body of work, and how we can use Nietzsche's philosophy in order to interpret some key features of our contemporary politics.

    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Matt McManus.

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    15 July 2024, 9:30 am
  • 46 minutes 48 seconds
    What India teaches us about liberalism — and its decline

    Authoritarian tendencies have been on the rise globally and the liberal world order is on the decline. One hotspot of this tension lies in India, where Prime Minister Narendra Modi employs autocratic language and tactics to maintain power. But a recent election may indicate that voters are losing interest in this style of rule. Guest host Zack Beauchamp talks with scholar Pratap Bhanu Mehta about the past of the Indian liberal tradition and what the current politics of the world’s largest democracy say about the state of global politics. 


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Pratap Bhanu Mehta

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    8 July 2024, 9:30 am
  • 44 minutes 59 seconds
    1992: The year politics broke

    We’re living in an era of extreme partisan politics, rising resentment, and fractured news media. Writer John Ganz believes that we can trace the dysfunction to the 1990s, when right-wing populists like Pat Buchanan and white supremacist David Duke transformed Republican politics. He joins Sean to talk about the 1990s and how it laid the groundwork for Trump. His book is When the Clock Broke: Con Men, Conspiracists, and How America Cracked Up in the Early 1990s.


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: John Ganz (@lionel_trolling). His book is When the Clock Broke. 

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    1 July 2024, 9:30 am
  • 55 minutes 6 seconds
    The existential struggle of being Black

    Nathalie Etoke joins The Gray Area to talk about existentialism, the Black experience, and the legacy of dehumanization. 

    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Nathalie Etoke. Her book is Black Existential Freedom.

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    24 June 2024, 9:30 am
  • 57 minutes 6 seconds
    The world after nuclear war

    A mile of pure fire. A flash that melts everything — titanium, steel, lead, people. A blast that mows down every structure in its path, 3 miles out in every direction. Journalist Annie Jacobsen spent years interviewing scientists, high-ranking military officials, politicians, and other experts to find out how a nuclear attack would be triggered, the devastation it would cause, the ruptures it would create in the social fabric, and how likely it is to happen today. She wrote about all of this in her new book Nuclear War: A Scenario. Jacobsen spends the hour clearly laying out the horrifying yet captivating specifics for Sean, and the prospects for avoiding catastrophe. 


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Annie Jacobsen. Her book is Nuclear War: A Scenario

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    17 June 2024, 9:30 am
  • 54 minutes 56 seconds
    Gaza, Camus, and the logic of violence

    Albert Camus was a Nobel-winning French writer and public intellectual. During Algeria’s bloody war for independence in the 1950s, Camus took a measured stance, calling for an end to the atrocities on each side. He was criticized widely for his so-called “moderation.” Philosophy professor Robert Zaretsky joins Sean to discuss Camus’s thoughts on that conflict and the parallels with the present moment.


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Robert Zaretsky

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    10 June 2024, 9:30 am
  • 53 minutes 58 seconds
    This is your kid on smartphones

    Old people have always worried about young people. But psychologist Jonathan Haidt believes something genuinely different and troubling is happening right now. He argues that smartphones and social media have had disastrous effects on the mental health of young people, and derailed childhood from real world play to touchscreens. He joins Sean to talk about his research and some of the criticisms of it.


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Jonathan Haidt (@jonhaidt). His book is The Anxious Generation.

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    3 June 2024, 9:30 am
  • 52 minutes 37 seconds
    Life after death?

    Sebastian Junger came as close as you possibly can to dying. While his doctors struggled to revive him, the veteran reporter and avowed rationalist experienced things that shocked and shook him, leaving him with profound questions and unexpected revelations. In his new book, In My Time of Dying, Junger explores the mysteries and commonalities of people’s near death experiences. He joins Sean to talk about what it’s like to die and what quantum physics can tell us about living that countless religions can’t.


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Sebastian Junger. His new book is In My Time of Dying.

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    20 May 2024, 9:30 am
  • 50 minutes 53 seconds
    The world after Ozempic

    Ozempic and other new weight loss drugs are being touted as potential miracle cures for diabetes and obesity. Journalist Johann Hari experimented with the drug and dropped 40 pounds. In his new book, Magic Pill, Hari discusses his experience with Ozempic and speaks to many of the leading scientists to better understand how the drug works. He joins Sean to talk about what he’s learned and the complicated trade-offs involved in the decision to take these drugs.


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Johann Hari (@johannhari101). His new book is Magic Pill.

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    13 May 2024, 9:30 am
  • 46 minutes 12 seconds
    UFOs, God, and the edge of understanding

    Religious studies professor Diana Pasulka was a total nonbeliever in alien life, but she began to question this after speaking with many people who claim to have had otherworldly encounters. She also noticed how these accounts parallel the foundational texts of many religions. She has since written two books on the topic, the most recent of which is Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences. She joins Sean to talk about extraterrestrial life, God, angels, and the renewed interest in UFOs. 


    Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

    Guest: Diana Pasulka (@dwpasulka). Her new book is Encounters: Experiences with Nonhuman Intelligences.

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    6 May 2024, 9:30 am
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