DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

On The DarkHorse Podcast, we will explore questions that matter, with tools that work. Weekly episodes of "The Evolutionary Lens" are co-hosted with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying, in which we use an evolutionary toolkit to reveal patterns in nature--including human nature. Guest episodes feature Bret hosting long form discussions. Some guests are well known, others obscure, but all are chosen because they have demonstrated unusual insight. The state and future of civilization will be a recurring theme, so buckle up!

  • 1 hour 54 minutes
    Pride and Shamelessness: The 235th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 235th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss the lack of transparency from the Secret Service about the assassination attempt on Trump, as revealed in part during this week’s Congressional hearing. Using Colin Ray’s “That’s my story and I’m sticking to it,” we analyze why information is being withheld from the public. Then: Portland Pride—the annual (now in July!) Parade reveals generic aesthetics, soulless corporate sponsorship, the public display of kink, and children taking it all in.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Secret Service Director testifies before Congress: https://www.c-span.org/video/?537081-1/secret-service-director-testifies-attempted-assassination-donald-trump

    Portland Pride Parade livestream on KGW News: https://www.youtube.com/live/P6gS4uS4SRk

    A Don’t Hurt Me Parade in Portland, at Natural Selections: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/a-dont-hurt-me-parade-in-portland

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    24 July 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 2 hours 46 minutes
    How Many Shooters? John Cullen on the Trump Assassination Attempt

    Find John Cullen on X: https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen
    Find John Cullen on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@iamjohncullen


    Find Chris Martenson’s audio analysis (mentioned by John): https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/1814114895065141491

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    21 July 2024, 11:00 pm
  • 2 hours 13 minutes
    Cave of Mirrors: The 234th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 234th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss the assassination attempt on Trump’s life, and the security and media landscape in which this happened. Are we all in a modern Plato’s Cave that has become a hall of mirrors, such that we can be sitting right next to someone, seeing a totally different reality? How can we evaluate different interpretations—is “lone gun nut” an inherently better or less biased hypothesis than conspiracy? Or are our use of aphorisms—like Hanlon’s Razor, “First, do no harm,” and “correlation doesn’t imply causation”—overused, and applied in places where they should not be? Finally: a poem.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Lone Assassins, by Michael Shermer (July 15, 2024): https://michaelshermer.substack.com/p/lone-assassins

    Joy Reid on MSNBC (July 15, 2024): https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1813003341640704499

    Patriotism and Poetry, by Heather (July 16, 2024): https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/patriotism-and-poetry

    The Iceberg Theory, by Gerald Locklin (2002): https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2002%252F08%252F15.html

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    16 July 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 1 hour 53 minutes
    Exquisite Failures: The 233rd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 233rd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss The Hope Accord, which calls for the “immediate suspension of Covid-19 mRNA vaccine products.” We encourage you to sign it. Then: wisdom from Charlie Munger on why we should prefer a world in which some people are not compensated for their losses (even if they didn’t deserve to lose), over having gameable systems in which cheaters flourish. Then: how the NYT stacks the deck in favor of sunscreen, by asking oncologists and dermatologists. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Finally, how chytrid fungus has wiped out frog populations and species across the world; how fever is used by endotherms like us to clear infections; and new research that finds that frogs like frog saunas, which not only feels great, but helps them clear fungal infections. The through-line: human hubris intervening in complex systems often ends badly.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    The Hope Accord: https://thehopeaccord.org

    Poor Charlie’s Almanack: https://www.amazon.com/Poor-Charlies-Almanack-Charles-Expanded/dp/1578645018

    The New York Times consults experts on the value of sunshine vs sunscreen: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/well/sunscreen-vitamin-d-skin-cancer.html

    Lindqvist et al 2016. Avoidance of sun exposure as a risk factor for major causes of death: A competing risk analysis of the melanoma in southern Sweden cohort. Journal of Internal Medicine, 280(4): 375– 387: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/joim.12496

    Weldon et al 2004. Origin of the amphibian chytrid fungus. Emerging infectious diseases, 10(12): 2100: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3323396/pdf/03-0804.pdf

    Waddle et al 2024. Hotspot shelters stimulate frog resistance to chytridiomycosis. Nature: https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-07582-y

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    9 July 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 2 hours 6 minutes
    Common Sense, Inverted: The 232nd Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 232nd in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss the 248th anniversary of the founding of the United States, with readings from Common Sense and the Declaration of Independence. Then: deep state vs. shallow state, and how it came to be that news = New York Times ^-1, and health = CDC^-1. Discussing the biggest story of 2020—the corruption and affiliations of what would become the first family of the U.S.—was considered a moral failure at the time. Finally: feminism fails in a spectacular show of rugby and lingerie (as Meghan Murphy said: “Modern feminism wants women either in burkas or p*rn gear”), and we discuss why WNBA star Caitlyn Clark is being competed with in the way that she is.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Common Sense (Thomas Paine, 1776): https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf

    Declaration of Independence: https://uscode.house.gov/download/annualhistoricalarchives/pdf/OrganicLaws2006/decind.pdf

    The Standard on rugby players x lingerie: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/team-gb-rugby-stars-rugby-sevens-paris-olympics-tokyo-b1168015.html

    Linda Blade weighs in: https://x.com/coachblade/status/1808125106440323228

    Lingerie company x DEI: https://www.bluebella.com/pages/idea

    Heather on Competition, and how it differs between the sexes: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/competition1of2


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    3 July 2024, 11:00 pm
  • 1 hour 52 minutes
    More Than one Way to Skin a Knee: Lenore Skenazy on DarkHorse

    Lenore Skenazy is “America’s Worst Mom”, founder of Free Range Kids and President of Let Grow. Bret talks to her about parenting in an era of zero risk.

    Find Lenore on X: https://x.com/FreeRangeKids  (@FreeRangeKids)
    Find Let Grow at their website: https://letgrow.org/

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    30 June 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 2 hours 58 seconds
    Lie to a Tyrant: The 231st Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 231st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss the Supreme Court’s decision in Biden v Missouri, and its implications for free speech and censorship; the presidential debate that will exclude Kennedy; and the release of Julian Assange—all possible tactics to control public conversation. Also: what does an AI deep fake of Dave Chappelle suggest about the future of comedy, and the role of humor in human interactions? Finally: a meandering tale of cars, border guards, and leaping water vipers, culminating in discussion of new research out of Madagascar on jumping leeches.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Supreme Court Opinion, Missouri v Biden: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-411_3dq3.pdf

    Kennedy’s simulcast during the presidential debate: https://therealdebate.com

    Julian Assange released: https://x.com/Stella_Assange/status/1805912602482291195

    AI deep fake of Dave Chappelle: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1804609027911147675

    Fahmy & Tessler 2024. A jumping terrestrial leech from Madagascar. Biotropica:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/btp.13340

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    26 June 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 1 hour 45 minutes
    It’s not Complicated: The 230th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 230th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss air quality in Los Angeles, and how California led the way in making catalytic converters standard in cars across the United States. Now, that regulatory apparatus is being used for less honorable ends, as legislators consider mandating the inclusion of folic acid in all tortilla products. We discuss pre- vs post-industrial diet, what mother’s milk is for, whether adult Americans are sleeping well, and how reductionism helped get us into this mess. Collectively, we have a complicated mindset, mapped on to a complex system. Then: the Pentagon funded an anti-vax campaign in the Philippines during Covid. At the same time that Americans who were hesitant about the Covid vax were demonized and targeted, the government was creating vaccine hesitancy in other parts of the world. The Cartesian crisis continues.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    LA Times: California wants to mandate folic acid in tortillas to help babies. Why that’s bad: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-22/tortillas-folic-acid-corn-masa-california

    Reuters Investigation: Pentagon ran secret anti-vax campaign to undermine China during pandemic: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-covid-propaganda/

    Robinson et al 2022. Factors contributing to vaccine hesitancy and reduced vaccine confidence in rural underserved populations. Humanities and Social Sciences Communications, 9(1): 1-8. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9702767/

    General Dynamics IT: https://www.gdit.com

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    19 June 2024, 9:00 pm
  • 1 hour 42 minutes
    Monsters, Spotted: The 229th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 229th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss empathy, sympathy, and theory of mind; corporate personhood, psychopathic behavior, and the limitations of humans; kin selection, and reciprocity, both direct and indirect. Then: utopias, and why they fail, from the hero of Er in Plato’s Republic to the Singularity. And we discuss the human need for story, which exists next to, and perhaps deeper than, our need for analysis and logic.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Lahti and Weinstein 2005. The better angels of our nature: Group stability and the evolution of moral tension. Evolution and Human Behavior, 26(1): 47-63: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=c5669ae3f2b5ba89967ab466b1095ab9c6d99c8c

    DarkHorse Evolutionary Lens #128: Wouldn’t Put It Past ‘Em: https://rumble.com/v4zrlvl-the-228th-evolutionary-lens-with-bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying.html

    Angus Fletcher, professor of story science, FAQs: https://www.angusfletcher.co/faqs

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    12 June 2024, 8:00 pm
  • 1 hour 59 minutes
    Wouldn’t Put it Past ‘Em: The 228th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

    In this 228th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we talk about the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.

    In this week’s episode, we discuss the WHO, International Health Regulations, and this week’s rally in Geneva. Also: major concessions in the Covid narrative. And: avian flu (H5N1). Finally: on the joys of motorcycling in the Alps with one’s son.

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    Mentioned in this episode:

    Tedros tweet: https://x.com/DrTedros/status/1796993038926897205

    Chan in the NYT on Covid origins: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/03/opinion/covid-lab-leak.html

    The Telegraph on excess deaths in 2020 – 2022: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/04/covid-vaccines-may-have-helped-fuel-rise-in-excess-deaths/

    Mostert et al 2024. Excess mortality across countries in the Western World since the COVID-19 pandemic: ‘Our World in Data’ estimates of January 2020 to December 2022. BMJ Public Health 2024;2:e000282. https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/bmjph/2/1/e000282.full.pdf

    The WHO on avian flu: https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/influenza-h5n1

    McCollough Substack on avian flu, June 4: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/breaking-publication-proximal-origin

    Hulscher et al 2024. Proximal Origin of Epidemic Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza H5N1 Clade 2.3.4.4b and Spread by Migratory Waterfowl. https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202406.0060/v1
    Murawski et al 2024. Highly pathogenic avian influenza A (H5N1) virus in a common bottlenose dolphin (Tursiops truncatus) in Florida. Communications Biology, 7(1)476.: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-024-06173-x.pdf

    Elsmo et al 2023. Pathology of natural infection with highly pathogenic avian influenza virus (H5N1) clade 2.3. 4.4 b in wild terrestrial mammals in the United States in 2022. BioRxiv, 2023-03.: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.03.10.532068v2.full.pdf

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    5 June 2024, 11:00 pm
  • 1 hour 55 minutes
    Truth Seeking in a Dark Age | Phil Harper on DarkHorse

    Bret talks to Phil Harper on his recent trip to the UK. They discuss the process of truth seeking and how our present dark age affects it.

    Find Phil on X: @phillyharper (https://twitter.com/phillyharper)
    Find Phil on Substack: https://philharper.substack.com/

    Cartoon mentioned at minute 56: https://imgix.bustle.com/lovelace/uploads/1055/dba34200-2841-0133-775b-0aecee5a8273.jpg?w=760&h=508&fit=crop&crop=faces&auto=format%2Ccompress&q=50&dpr=2

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    1 June 2024, 3:00 am
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