The DarkHorse Podcast is hosted by Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. Bret and Heather both have PhDs in biology, and they seek truth and explore a wide variety of topics with their evolutionary toolkit as society loses its footing. Tune in to infamous spreaders of "Covid Disinformation" Bret and Heather for a podcast—maybe you'll like what you see!
On this, our 303rd Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss the recommendation to stop vaccinating newborns against Hepatitis B, as just handed down by ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices) for the CDC. Why were newborns whose mothers do not have Hep B, being vaccinated against a disease that is contracted through sexual activity and dirty needles? We discuss claims of “safe and effective,” risk stratification, the childhood vaccine schedule, and what “individual-based decision-making” will mean for parents and doctors. Then, new research: tattoo ink induces inflammation in lymph nodes, and changes the immune response to vaccination. Finally: an homage to Tom Stoppard, playwright extraordinaire, author of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, Arcadia, and so much more. RIP.
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Mentioned in this episode:
ACIP Hep B recommendation: https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2025/2025-acip-recommends-individual-based-decision-making-for-hepatitis-b-vaccine-for-infants-born-to-women.html
Retsef Levi on Hep B rec: https://x.com/cdcgov/status/1996967080793358366
RFK on vaccines: https://x.com/seckennedy/status/1997104582128754854
Capucetti et al 2025. Tattoo ink induces inflammation in the draining lymph node and alters the immune response to vaccination. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 122(48), p.e2510392122: https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.2510392122
Bret Weinstein speaks with Ben Davidson about modern relationship dynamics, masculinity and feminism, and the nature of good and evil from an evolutionary perspective.
Find Ben Davidson on Youtube at https://www.youtube.com/@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s and on X at https://x.com/SunWeatherMan.
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Mentioned in this Episode:
Apocalypse When? Ben Davidson on DarkHorse LIVE https://youtube.com/live/w0Gz7w3l_uE
The Sun, The Earth and The Disaster Cycle https://observerranch.podia.com/the-sun-the-earth-and-the-disaster-cycle
Ben Davidson on X https://www.youtube.com/@SpaceWeatherNewsS0s
Hoe Math on X https://x.com/ItIsHoeMath
Bret speaks with San Francisco Bay area architect Richard Gage, member of the American Institute of Architects and founder & former CEO of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth on the subject of 9/11 and the collapse of Building 7.
Find Richard Gage https://richardgage911.org
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In this 302nd episode, Bret Weinstein podcasts solo, giving Heather Heying a much-needed break while she recovers from the flu. He shares his thoughts on modern marriage, discusses the troubling Italian farm-family story, and explains what Sarah Hurwitz's revealing comments mean to outsiders. To finish his mission, he answers questions submitted over X and Locals during the stream.
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Mentioned in this Episode:
Nathan Trevallion and his family live ‘off-grid https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1989367754856472819
They have taken the children away from the “FAMILY IN THE WOODS” https://x.com/ProVitaFamiglia/status/1991946029080707501
Tweet "Fmr Obama speechwriter Sarah Hurwitz laments to Jewish Federation" https://x.com/infolibnews/status/1990634043218534790
On this, our 301st Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss grief and mourning, and what makes us human. How many distinctly human traits will we prune away before we realize that we have gone too far, that there is too little remaining of humanity to be resurrected? From the Industrial Revolution(s) to that of AI, now we’ve got apps that threaten to keep your loved ones “alive” forever, with none of the valuable complexity that ancient grieving traditions offer. Then: bonobos show evidence of language use that is emergent—in which combinations of sounds mean more than the sum of their parts. And: all of the ostriches at Universal Ostrich Farm in British Columbia have been slaughtered, per a court order, despite there being no public or individual health justification for doing so.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Amelia Earhart: https://x.com/dnigabbard/status/1989450238923309500
2wai, the anti-grief app: https://x.com/bretweinstein/status/1989413085753577593
Berthet et al 2025. Extensive compositionality in the vocal system of bonobos. Science, 388(6742): 104-108: https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/science.adv1170
AP on ostriches, 11-7-25: https://apnews.com/article/oshtrich-cull-bird-flu-canada-cbef6e65b570bbc91a790b4817e02777
WaPo on pet vaccinations: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/11/15/edith-pritchett-cartoon-anti-vaccine-pet-owners/
On this, our 300th Evolutionary Lens livestream, we discuss where we started back in March 2020: Covid, lockdowns, sunlight, masks, repurposed drugs, grainy videos, and more. Then: the recent and on-going massive solar storms, and how to think about them, now and in the future, especially if you find yourself away from home as a civilization ending event may be about to happen. Also: space weather, or anthropogenic climate change, or both? Finally: Rod Dreher on the groypers among D.C. zoomers.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Why Should I Trust You? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/live-from-childrens-health-defense-part-1-of-3/id1788335471?i=1000735997005
Apocalypse When? https://www.youtube.com/live/w0Gz7w3l_uE
Ben Davidson: https://x.com/SunWeatherMan
How the sun could wipe us out (Bret in UnHerd, 2019): https://unherd.com/2021/07/how-the-sun-could-wipe-us-out/
NOAA’s space weather page: https://www.swpc.noaa.gov
Listened to an hour of Fuentes… https://x.com/pegobry_en/status/1987888075087692226?s=20
Dreher in DC: https://roddreher.substack.com/p/what-i-saw-and-heard-in-washington
Bret Weinstein speaks with Harry Fisher, an experienced paramedic, about what he witnessed before, during and after COVID-19 and the vaccine rollout.
Find Harry Fisher on X at https://x.com/harryfisherEMTP and his book, “Safe and Effective, For Profit: A Paramedic’s Story Exposing An American Genocide” on Amazon at https://amzn.to/43WV8Cs (commission earned).
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: https://988lifeline.org
Free and confidential helpline for individuals and families facing mental disorders: https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/helplines/national-helpline
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Today we begin with Nick Fuentes—how did he go from a guy with Jewish friends, to someone who is proudly anti-Semitic? Why does “anti-Semitic” now have so many meanings? What are the differences between preference, discrimination, and bigotry? Then: Bill Gates changes his tune on climate change—or does he? His new memo still sounds the alarm about Carbon, but also privileges his pet projects of vaccinating the world and handing agriculture to the technologists. Finally: manta rays, how smart they are, how they respond to mirrors, and how much time they spend at the spa.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Fuentes on Tucker Carlson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efBB0D4tf1Y
Bret on dual citizenship: https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1825602620192698812
Speak of the Devil: How Demonizing "Whiteness" Spreads White Nationalism – Bret in 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1sJgjG5AF4&t=227s
Bob Murphy analyzing Fuentes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSDs_2narcw&t=698s
Clipped by: https://www.youtube.com/@hamannature
Bill Gates memo: https://www.gatesnotes.com/home/home-page-topic/reader/three-tough-truths-about-climate
Ari & D’Agostino 2016. Contingency checking and self-directed behaviors in giant manta rays: Do elasmobranchs have self-awareness?. Journal of Ethology 34(2): 167-174:https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10164-016-0462-z
Bret Weinstein speaks with Senator Ron Johnson on the subject of 9/11.
Find Senator Ron Johnson on X: http://x.com/SenRonJohnson
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Today we discuss Harvard, higher ed, public health, AI, and political cheating. Harvard has announced the suspension of several graduate programs, as well as hiring and other budget freezes, claiming poverty due to the suspension of federal grants. But Harvard’s revenue last year was $6.7 billion, and their losses amount to 1.7% of that. Meanwhile, Trump wants Harvard to run trade schools. Then: vaccinologist Paul Offit admits that natural immunity was always superior to vaccine-induced immunity—if you survived the infection—but that this was not a matter of public health policy because Americans couldn’t handle the nuance. And: Google’s AI fabricated a criminal history, and is now being sued. Finally: how you voted is visible on your mail-in ballot in some counties in California.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Harvard’s PhD Bloodbath (Chris Brunet): https://www.chrisbrunet.com/p/harvards-phd-bloodbath
Letter from Harvard (Heather): https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/letter-from-harvard
Paul Offit on Covid immunity: https://x.com/kevinnbass/status/1891856265292169570
Robby Starbuck suing Google: https://x.com/robbystarbuck/status/1980985160586625186
Ralston Lectures: https://www.ralston.ac/the-sophia-lectures/bret-weinstein-heather-heying-sophia-lectures-2025
California ballots: https://x.com/indyspanglish/status/1977814368613249280
Today we discuss the experience of returning home after timeway—culture shock, social media, and seeing your home with fresh eyes. Then a difficult set of topics: anorexia, physician assisted suicide, “terminal” diagnoses, social contagions, and what people have a right to do with their own lives. Finally: AI has been used to predict potentially useful drug combinations to fight cancer. What does this mean for the future of medicine, and AI?
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: https://988lifeline.org
Free and confidential helpline for individuals and families facing mental disorders: https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/helplines/national-helpline
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Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org
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Mentioned in this episode:
Denver Post op-ed on Jane Allen: https://www.denverpost.com/2025/10/02/assisted-suicide-was-offered-to-my-friend-jane-allen-she-had-an-eating-disorder-opinion/
Gaudiani et al 2022. Terminal anorexia nervosa: three cases and proposed clinical characteristics. Journal of Eating Disorders, 10(1): 23: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1186/s40337-022-00548-3.pdf
Guarda et al 2022. Terminal anorexia nervosa is a dangerous term: it cannot, and should not, be defined. Journal of eating disorders, 10(1): 79: https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1186/s40337-022-00599-6.pd
Mia Hughes’ tweet thread on social contagions: https://x.com/_CryMiaRiver/status/1491065839495544837
Laura Delano on DarkHorse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18XtCdasn2Q&list=PLjQ2gC-5yHEuZwhHfjXu3KH8MomS2N3zq&index=13
Laura Delano’s book, Unshrunk, excerpted at Natural Selections: https://naturalselections.substack.com/p/informed-consent-in-the-land-of-psychiatric
How a Gemma model helped discover a new potential cancer therapy pathway: https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-gemma-ai-cancer-therapy-discovery